who is the hero of our times? My answer: Neither of them for their poor vision for India!One split India, another one broke Indians!
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:58 )
Abhishek
Veer Savarakar, any time any where, is the here of our time. And Chhatrapati Shivaji is there hero for all time. Its very loud and clear, how Gandhi had trapped Ambedkarjee in Pune pact. This is Gandhi, Nehru and Congress who are responsible for the current situation of "Harijans".. Savarkarjee initiated the idea to scrap the bloody caste system, but Gandhi opposed that. Again after independance inspite of repeated warnings given by Ambedkarajee and Veer Savarakar or RSS, Nehru kept on saying "Hindi-Chinee bhai-bhai", the result, all know..
Vande Mataram
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:58 )
Savarkarjee initiated the idea to scrap the bloody caste system..... so that only the upper castes could usurp everything on offer and ditch the other backward castes to their gallows,as they were suppressed for centuries. Suppose if Nehru had said 'hindi-chini dushman,dushman' would we have won the war in '62? China may not win a war against us today,because we are strong enough today. But in '62 how was India? Go through the details then, and you would know. We were struggling economically then.
( Posted by KARTHIK NADAR on )
Sathyameva-jayathe
looks ridiculous!an apple is an apple and an orange is an orange!
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:53 )
medha phatak
GANDHI AND ONLY GANDHI IS OUR HERO!!! AMBEDKAR HAS DONE NOTHING BUT DIVIDE INTO HALF AND DRAFTED A ROT AND USELESS CONSTITUTION. WHAT ELSE CAN ONE EXPECT OF A DALIT MIND THAT TOO WHILE DRAFTING THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENT - UTTER WASTE & TRAGEDY. DALITS ARE GOOD ONLY CLEANING GUTTERS & STREETS AND SERVING THE UPPER CLASSES.
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:50 )
Hi! medhaphatak, such derogatory remarks for a community, which is in majority in our country, are highly unwarranted. This itself is an insult to the Father of the nation. I donot know whether you have read about Ambedkarji's life. Please donot forget that he was educated in England and to say that he has drafted a constitution with a biased mind is abslutely incorrect.His wisdom and ability is beyond doubt and it is because of this constitution democracy in India has overcome numerous hurdles. Sensibility should prevail.
( Posted by partap dhir on )
Medha - you should be either in jail or a lunatic asylum for making such statements.
( Posted by Anurags on )
I fully agree with you and I request the Chief Justice,Supreme Court of India to take a suo-moto notice on the slanderous remarks of medha phatak. I am not a dalit but I have all the affection for those who remained depressed & oppressed in the past. I am not going to contest any damn election and I do not want a single vote.
( Posted by partap dhir on )
Nehaa
No Doubt the position to which Dalits have reached today is courtsey Dr.Ambedkar and hence there is no reason why he is no less than the God for them. Gandhi ji on the other hand worked for freedom not supporting any perticular section of the society. Though he is not being worshipped by most but truely he is respected by the nation at large.Though today,one has to really brush up the fundae of Gandhigiri every now and then , Dr. Ambedkar truely resides in the hearts of Dalits.
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:48 )
sachin agre
It is totally wrong to say Ambedkar has become a deity only for the Harijans, all are giving wrong interpretation about Ambedkar’s work. In reality Ambedkar not only done the work for Harijans but he had expected to remove cast system from the society and large numbers of Brahmins also joined his mission. He just wanted that Dalits should get all the rights and equality in society. Dr.Ambedakar is the great person and he is the founder of Indian constitution therefore Not Only Dalits but all the upper cast persons and having a patriotic sense towards nation like me have lots of respect for Dr. Ambedkar. Every Indian should have proud on him. Jai Hind !
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:47 )
Aravinda Shastry
It is very un-fortunate that, Dr.B.R.Ambedkar has been marked continuously as a leader of a particular caste / tribe / group / community, when his contribution in my opinion stretches to all those down thrown people of the society. It was nothing I believe that Ambedkar has said / done things against Hinduism. In the modern world (!!??), the very term Hindu / Hinduism have been miss-concieved to be a group of some castes. where as other religion notifying names have been given very much social / political values making Hindu / Hinduism as anti-heros. Back to Ambedkar, had he been able to see today, would have been really upset on his current image. He has really worked for the up-liftment of the socially neglected people which is very appreciable and a model work for the whole of te world. Coming to Gandhi, we are un-necessarily comparing an Apple with a Mango, when both have its own value. Mahathma Gandhiji can not be simply compared with any other individual forces in the world (not out of emotions - I dislike somany steps taken by MKGandhi). He stood for his values / principles but was more kind of a non-violant Dictator, which was very much required in those days. His ideologies of hormonising between all the castes / religions of mankind was itself phenomenal. 'We do not need a garland of only one type of flowers / nor an ornament with only gold / nor a dish with just one taste'. what we need is a blended mixture of different flowers in a maala / collection of different stones with gold / and different flavours in the dish. To say finally, we are today de-valuing Dr.Ambedkar by notifying him as a community leader. MY BASIC OBJECTION IS TO THE CAPTION STATEMENT "GANDHI VS AMBEDKAR: WHO IS THE HERO OF OUR TIMES?". Please do not try to ignite the minds.
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:45 )
KP
Ambedkar is the culprit behind creating law for reservations which is a disaster to our country, divides the country by cast etc.
Ambedkar cannot even be equated with GAndhiji.
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:43 )
Hee..hee. I can understand from your comment that you belong to a forward caste eventhough you have not given your name. Let me tell you that I belong to an OBC caste,and I have got my reservations thanks to AMBEDKAR.
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Amit Shukla
The debate is futile. There is no comparison between the two, Gandhi wins hands down . The teachings of Mr. Ambedkar were, at best, confined to a particular class while that of Mr.Gandhi were, and are, universal in appeal.This is not to be little Mr. Ambedkar but truth needs to be accepted .Their relevance can not and should not be evaluated by number of statues or crowd gathering to mark their aniversaries. The debate itself reeks of desire to seek political gains at the cost of our already fragile society.
( Posted: Thursday , December 07, 2006 at 09:36 )
Srinivas Naidu
Undoubdedly, Dr.Balasahebs contribution is more just because with Gandhijis popularity in those days he could have been more effective in bringing social justice and perishing untouchability but he toyed with a middle path may be to take all communities for the cause of freedom. He could have done more that is my personal feeling.
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